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Sly William

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  • Name Sly William 
    Born 1844  Black Horse Inn, Richmond, NSW, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2
    Gender Male 
    Occupation 1872  Boswell Street, Richmond, NSW, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    Butcher 
    Died 30 Apr 1930  ,Manly,NSW, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  [2, 4, 5, 6
    Person ID I640  GeniAus Family Tree
    Last Modified 22 Apr 2019 

    Father Sly William H,   b. Abt 1817, ,,Surrey, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 4 Oct 1874, Black Horse Hotel,Richmond, NSW, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 57 years) 
    Mother Westbrook Sophia,   b. 11 Feb 1825, ,,NSW,Australia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 18 May 1900, ,,NSW,Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 75 years) 
    Married 2 Apr 1844  ,Richmond, NSW, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family ID F468  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Living 
    Children 
    +1. Sly Alfred William,   b. 1868, ,,NSW,Australia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1960, ,,NSW,Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 92 years)
    +2. Sly Blanche Sophia,   b. 1870, ,,NSW,Australia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 3 May 1932, ,,NSW,Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 62 years)
     3. Sly Eleanor Margaret,   b. 1873, ,,NSW,Australia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Bef 1932  (Age < 58 years)
     4. Sly Gertrude M,   b. 1875, ,,NSW,Australia Find all individuals with events at this location
     5. Sly Jessie Madeline,   b. 1880, ,,NSW,Australia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 2 Feb 1900, ,,NSW,Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 20 years)
    +6. Sly Theophilus,   b. 1881, ,,NSW,Australia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 28 Aug 1951, , Richmond, NSW, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 70 years)
    +7. Sly Ivy,   b. 1888, ,,NSW,Australia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1 Jul 1935, ,,NSW,Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 47 years)
    Last Modified 26 Mar 2020 
    Family ID F2819  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

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    Link to Google MapsOccupation - Butcher - 1872 - Boswell Street, Richmond, NSW, Australia Link to Google Earth
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  • Sources 
    1. [S52] x NSW BDM Indexes, V1844285 158/1844 .
      SLY WILLIAM WILLIAM SOPHIA

    2. [S123] Windsor and Richmond Gazette (NSW : 1888 - 1921), 19 February 1932.

    3. [S2956] Greville's 1972 Post Office Directory, http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hcastle/grevilles/lists/pqr/ric.html#Richmond.
      SLY William jun. butcher Boswell St. Richmond

    4. [S52] x NSW BDM Indexes, 7892/1930 .
      SLY WILLIAM WILLIAM SOPHIA MANLY

    5. [S123] Windsor and Richmond Gazette (NSW : 1888 - 1921), 11 July 1930.
      THE LATE WILLIAM SLY
      AND THE BLACK HORSE HOTEL
      RICHMOND REMINISCENCES -
      (For the 'Windsor and Richmond Gazette')
      By A. W . S.
      Mr WILLIAM SLY, who died, recently at
      the age of 86 years, was many years ago
      proprietor, of the old Black Horse Hotel,
      Richmond, the oldest licensed house in Aus-
      tralia until the license was transferred to
      Kurrajong Heights a few years ago. The
      Black Horse was licensed in 1819, and in
      the 'good old days' it was better known
      as the Honeymoon Inn, the late Sir Henry
      Parkes and Sir George Dibbs being among
      the many who spent their honeymoon there.
      A visitors' book w as then kept at the ho-
      tel for the purpose of recording the names
      of those who spent their happy days there-
      in. The book, I believe, should become my
      property, as I am the eldest son of the late
      William Sly. However, I understand it is
      in the possession of Mr. A. Wood, of
      March-street, Richmond, who, I am sure,
      will only be too pleased to show anyone
      wishing to inspect the historic volume. Mrs.
      Wood is a grand-daughter of the late So-
      phia Sly, who was the mother of William,
      James, John, Mary, Annie, Charles, Maggie,
      Henry, Jane and Walter. All were born in
      the historic Black HorseHotel, and were
      well-known to people of the Hawkesbury
      district. Only one son of the family smoked,
      and seldom would you 'ever' see one of them
      go into an hotel for a- drink.
      The late William Sly was the father of
      Alfred (Auburn), Blanche (Mrs. H. Powell,
      of Richmond), Eleanor (the late Mrs. Geo.
      Hunt, of Sydney), Gertrude (Mrs. Geo. Mil
      ler, of Orange), Jessie '(deceased), Ivy (Mrs.
      S. Ireland, of Manly), and Theo (Richmond).
      William Sly was a man who was highly
      respected by all with whom he came in con-
      tact, especially during the time he was li-
      censee of the Black Horse Hotel, which was
      in the possession of the Sly family for over
      50 years. Years ago, when horse racing in
      the Hawkesbury was regarded as a guide for
      the big meetings at Randwick, especially
      the Metropolitan and Doncaster — the horses
      that won the Hawkesbury Handicap and the
      Mile were always'considered good things for
      .the Metrop. and Doncaster, and often came
      off — stables were' located at- Windsor, Clar-
      endon and Richmond. A week or even lon-
      ger before the race meetings took place
      horses arrived in the district from all parts
      of the State. These meetings were described
      in the' ''Gazette' some little time back by
      Mr. Ernest Huxley, who, I may say, is a
      relative of the Sly family.
      I can mention noted trainers of to-day,
      who, but a few short 'years ago, were joc-
      keys and well-known to the Sly family,
      who used to do the catering for many of
      them. Some would actually pass out of the
      Saddling Paddock to the Ledger to get what
      they called 'a good meal,' not, forgetting
      the home-made dampers which they would
      take home with them.
      In those days the racecourse would be
      well filled with people at 9 o'clock in the
      morning, all waiting for the -programme to
      commence.. During their wait there would
      be plenty of fun to keep them amused, even
      if it was at 'the expense of poor old 'Garden
      Honey,' who used to sell the race books in a
      dress coat and top hat.
      Such good horses as those belonging to
      Sir Hercules Robinson, Sir Daniel Cooper,
      Sir John Young, Messrs. Gilchrist and Watt
      and Co., in fact all the Governor's horses,
      were stabled at the Black Horse, and to-
      day there 'still remains one or two of the
      boxes in which they were housed. The
      stables were mostly built strong and lined
      with laths, and plaster, large louver windows,
      and shingle on -the roof which kept them
      cool in the summer time. ,
      Here are some of the names of the train-
      ers who used to look forward to the Haw-
      kesbury races and 'would notify Mr. Sly
      regarding the number of horse boxes they
      required: — F. Sandon, Teddy Keys, J. Mona-
      ghan,, W. Kelso, senr., 'T.. Brown (2), 'A..
      Cornwell, J. Cook, W.Chaffe, I. Cornwell, W.
      Gullem, M. Kelllck, ' H. Raynor, T. Payten,
      P. Lynch, Chippendall, P. Dwyer, W. Dug-
      gan, T. Lamond' and others too numerous
      to mention.' I would like to recall, while
      on these' names that Mr. W. Kelso, junr.,
      a son of one of 'the above-mentioned, came
      to Richmond to ride a pony, Lady Chester,
      for Mr. C. Roberts. When he saw young
      'Bill' Kelso, as he was ' then known, Mr.
      Roberts remarked,' 'I don't think I would
      ' like this little chap, to ride any pony — he
      will fall off.' To satisfy Mr. Roberts, Mr.
      Kelso said,' 'I will tie him on or strap him
      there.' After, a little persuasion, 'Bill'
      Kelso was safely seated, and, needless to
      say, came home an easy winner. I have oft-
      en been, going to ask Mr. W. Kelso if he
      remembers the day, on the old sandy course
      , at Clarendon, which is the aviation ground
      to-day.
      Now we come to: the ' foot-runners who
      were trained by the late William Sly at
      the Black Horse Hotel when that sport
      was in the boom. The following are a few
      names of good; performers: — J. McGarrigal
      (champion white man), C. Samuels (abo.
      champion). McGarrigal won the Botany
      £500 and the Carrington £500 within a
      fortnight. In the final of the former he
      defeated F. Nowland by six inches for
      something like £30,000. Ask Frank, lie will
      tell you.
      Then there were T. Malone, F. Nowland,
      W. Williams, Joe Price, H. Bushell, T. Grif-
      fiths, Mick Monnock, Joe Bushell, H. Miller,
      D. Noonan, Jack Noonan, Jack Logan, Var-
      ley, W. C. Allen, S. Donovan, T. Gatterall, .
      Matt. Waters (judge at the ponies and not
      muti like a runner to-day, but pretty slick
      in his younger days), C. Doyle, C Keppler,
      Flockton, Ted. Lazarus (who would always
      hold C .Samuels in a 50 yards sprint), Alf.
      Hume, D. Braithwaite, W. Moore, H. Moore,
      T. 'McGory, Alick McGory, Underhill, J. At-
      kinson, J. Sullivan, .H. Stewart, J. Parker,
      M. Tierney, A. Wall, W. Turner, Paddy
      Doyle (abo.), D. Stevens, Brownlow, Ted.
      Rudd and his brother,' M. Solomon, P. Her-
      bert, McGuinness, C. Carver, R. Settler, Mary .'''-
      Jane Hunt, and dozens of others. All were
      trained by Mr. Sly, who was noted as one
      of the best trainers and time-keepers of his
      day. He always claimed J. McGarrigal as
      the best. Mr,. Sly trained McGarrigal when
      he won the Botany and Carrington. Handi-
      caps. He also trained C. Samuels when he
      beat the English champion, Hutchens, at
      Carrington for £500 a side; also H. Miller
      when he beat Bob. Ashworth for £200 a
      side.'D. Braithwaite when he ran bold J.
      Donohue for £200 a side and won, and C.
      Carver to run Bob. 'Stokes at the back of
      the old Melton Hotel, Auburn, for £100 and
      £200 a side the same evening and won both
      In fact, there was always a man in Mr .
      Sly's hands who could be called on to win
      a race when wanted. Such men as' the late
      Messrs. W. Lees, T. Rose, C. Mitchell (New-
      castle) used to pay for men to be trained
      by the late William Sly, who was greatly
      assisted by his eldest son — the writer. I
      was regarded as the best 'trial horse'' they
      would get for all-comers.
      I have a paper 50 years old with, the pho-
      tos of such good runners as J. Aplett and
      Bob. Watson, both champions in their day.
      I have also a photo of J.' McGarrigal (cham-
      pion), not forgetting one of C. Carver. I
      might also mention that the 'boxers — P. Sla-
      vin and J. Hall — trained at the Black Horse.
      In regard to the remarks in the 'Gazette'
      by Mr. J. Mitchell, concerning The Barber,
      etc. to the effect that he had no knowledge
      of stables being at the Black Horse Hotel,
      if he will go there now he can see the old
      original building. I might add that Mr.
      Mitchell was quite -correct about the hotel
      at which The Barber was stabled, and I can
      enlighten him that it was at one time cal-
      led the Union Hotel, afterwards the Post
      Office Hotel, not the Court House Hotel, as
      stated.

    6. [S123] Windsor and Richmond Gazette (NSW : 1888 - 1921).
      LINK WITH THE PAST
      DEATH OF WILLIAM SLY
      LICENSEE OF HISTORIC HOTEL
      A LINK with the past was snapped by the
      death at Manly on Wednesday week,
      April 30, of Mr. William Sly, many years
      ago proprietor and owner of the historic
      Black Horse Hotel, at Richmond, the li-
      cense, of which was transferred a few years
      ago to Kurrajong Heights.
      Over 50, years ago, when Mrs. Seymour,
      wife of Dr. Seymour, who owned the Black
      Horse Hotel, died she, by her will, bequea-
      thed this historic house to a child whom she
      had adopted, named Sophia Westbrook. Miss
      Westbrook married William Sly, who was
      Mrs. Seymour's manager for over 40 years,
      and they continued the business and ran
      the hotel in its palmiest days. On one oc-
      casion Sir John and Lady Young stayed
      at the inn, 'and .the Governor's wife was
      presented with a bouquet on her arrival at
      the door by a daughter of the hostess.
      When the Slys passed away their son,
      William, the subject of this notice, became
      possessed of the property. He was born
      in the Black. Horse, and his mother was in
      the house as a baby, and used to play un-
      der the weather-worn cedar tree which still
      stands beside the tavern-door.
      The late William Sly was licensee of the
      historic hotel for over 30 years, and he was
      one of the best known and most respected
      citizens of the Hawkesbury. He was a man
      who took a great interest in sport, particu
      larly foot races, and a number of the early
      day champion pedestrians were guests at his
      hotel. In those days foot racing was prac-
      tically regarded as the national sport.
      Subsequently, the late Mr. Sly disposed
      of the Black Horse Hotel property, and
      about 10 or 15 years ago removed to Manly
      to reside with one of his married daughters
      (Mrs. Sid Ireland), where he died at the
      age of 86 years. He leaves a family of two
      sons and three daughters, viz., Alfred Wil-
      liam (Auburn), Blanche (Mrs. Harry Pow-
      ell, Richmond), Gertrude (Mrs. Geo.Miller,
      of Orange), Theo. (Richmond), and Ivy (Mrs.
      Sid. Ireland, Manly). One daughter prede-
      ceased her father.
      The funeral took place on Thursday, the
      remains being laid to rest in St. Peter's
      Church of England cemetery, Richmond
      within a stone's' throw of where the de-
      ceased was born.